I have joined the mission in 1997 when my heart was seeking for real love and i bumped into the mission unknowingly and without reading much books and later i read the books thoroughly not in a real spritual way but with a view of love...
I loved a girl for 4-5 years (1996-2000) and my heart was thinking whether she really loves me etc stuff... and i joined the mission and one day i saw in meditation that her hand was in my hand and i therefore proposed to her and she rejected my proposal
and she got married... i was heartbroken but with the love for Guru chariji, and his love for me i have survived somehow thinking that this Guruji loves me...And with my immense love for the girl which is turned into love for chariji (because he helped me gather courage to propose her, thats a big thing for me in life, not now though)
Now because of this love, i think my samskaras are burnt up as the philosphy of sahaj marg goes, and i have seen the spiritual forms of so many Brighter world souls
including babuji maharaj, Shri krishna, Chariji and others too... Now my problem is this is called visual hallucination in medical terms and is called as psychic disorder.. and i behaved strangelt as per the Chariji's spiritual form guided me and one fine day my parents took me to psychiatrist and i was/ am still under treatment... Now after the treatment i fell on earth.. now i see the material life,,, money,,, how people behave, from 1997 to almost i guess 2006 i am in a spiritual zombie, and also used to follow chariji like monkey... i wrote to Charijji that whether these spitiual forms are ture or not.. and he never replied.... I get fucking angry... coz Its his duty to reply... or he may reply you are not fit to do meditation or etc like that ,,, may be he dont want to hurt me and did not reply.. but i used to see, the spiritual forms similar to regular, physical human beings, except that the forms are really divine and thers's a peculiar light around them... lord krishna's was Blue colour form and chariji's golden colour form...
Plz let me know if someone has the same experiences or if someone else was forced to medication becasue of visual experiences.. they call it visual hallucinations in medical terms....
Anyone plz
can you help me?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnNSe5XYp6E
this video should help..
Its true that the cult people behave as if there's no tomorrow...N in Sahaj marg they there are no do's and don'ts.. but once one gets into it..one can't even have a cordial relation with one's spouse i guess...i mean there's always a doubt in their mind what guru thinks of it if they do something wrong...atleast i used to have it in my mind... now i am kind of free of this shit guru etc...for example Chariji said once that people should not have sex in the morning /day...etc.. so u c things like taht....suppose the guy likes it in the morning and the girl says no... and another divorce...?
Hi
What you call hallucinations can be that or just manufacturings of the MIND, and not necessarily be given "negative" explanations or interpretation. One trained in "psychiatry" if asked, will attempt to give meaning to these forms and most of the time, if they are not into "jungian" philosophy, will treat what they call "hallucinations" with medications. Jung used to interpret the dreams and worked out all kinds of "archtypes" that he thought the MIND is trying to represent with the forms seen.
A psychiatrist will use "medication" a psychologist will use logic and "WORDS"... I would only see a "psychologist" and never a psychiatrist unless there was a "chemical imbalance" or an "injuty" that was shown and that had to be "balanced" using a drug from their arsenal of MEDICATIONS, from the "Pharmaceutical INDUSTRY". Most of them are experimental and the results are not as clearly defined as they would like to believe.
I am not a "psy" but I have worked in the "mental health" field", and through my research with the "spiritual" field, I can say safely that many so-called "normal" people see or hear and feel other presences in their lives.
Some RELIGIOUS people such as "christians" see and hear other worldly "forms" very often. Artists apparently see what they "paint", and musicians have their "MUSE" who brings them "music" from the "STREAM of MUSIC" that many claim is in the "atmosphere". All these are very normal experiences that normal people have and are not needing "MEDICATIONS"...
In my culture when someone is taking or relating to other "creatures", we say: He is having problems so he is talking to GOD (or to HIMSELF)...
And later, as a joke, we say: "He's gotten worse...he's now "answering". ;-)) This not putting pressure or "marginalizing" of the manifestations of a "troubled mind", makes the person feel "
accepted" as normal and not "INSANE". or "LUNATIC"...the words used by non-enlightened societies and tribal societies.
So if GOD or NATURE or your MIND, or "other's MIND", talks to you in 'IMAGES" say "THANK YOU" and try and bring the "messages" to the exterior...but in the psy field, the warning is: If you are getting "instructions" or "commands" to do something then see a professional, a psychologist.
There is a "prime directive" in the other worlds (spirit) as we have in our world. When we meet a new life form, we know from experience, that any interference with that LIFE FORM could have a "negative" impact on that life-form, without our knowing it. The same with the SPIRITUAL world. If a SPIRIT gives "INSTRUCTIONS", it is not to be TRUSTED or believed. That is usually MIND, not SPIRIT. A SPIRIT JUST IS, and does not DO (such as advise or give instructions)...
If a spirit gives a "general feeling" such as the WIND, the SUN, etc...then there is a chance that the SPIRIT is truly a spirit and not MIND. MIND is a "Trickster", caught in the DUALITY of LIFE, and can be manipulated by "other" MINDS who usually claim to serve some SPIRIT or OTHER. Some are good SPIRITS and some are "malevolent" and some followers or interpreters of SPIRITS, are sometimes "Pranksters" or "TRICKSTERS" or PROFITEERS" at the MIND level...
Generally, Babuji said" don't be attached to, or TRUST or BELIEVE FORM... The Jewish word for the ONE is YAHWEH or "IT that has no FORM, no NAME, no SHAPE, etc"... so a SPIRIT.
In early Greek, the ONE of PLATO (and Vivekananda), or the access to KNOWLEDGE (Gnosis or Knosis)), was expressed in philosophy or science as LOGOS (Logic as expressed by SOUND, using WORDS), as opposed to MYTHOS, myth, stories, fantasies, metaphors, etc...
LOGOS got translated in the Christian Bible as the "WORD" by the GOTH (GERMANIC) tribe as they invaded and sacked Rome in the 4th century and took Christianity to Germany where it became the HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE. ...so now the Christians think that the BIBLE is the "WORD" of GOD...rather than "in the beginning, was LOGOS" (logic),,, meaning that the UNIVERSE, the ALL (created) and the ONE (creator), what they call GOD (from GOTH), has MEANING or LOGIC.
Such silliness and Fantasy...
They both are accesses to KNOWLEDGE...one is LOGICAL and one is MYTHIC and not to be taken literally, such as FORMS in one's SUB-conscious MIND...but are meant to be "interpreted" as to what their meaning is... That demands a STUDY of different experiences by different subjects, hence it needs a PROFESSIONAL... not a psychiatrist but a "psychologist". Or a SPIRITUAL attitude, an attitude that does not get "messages" from the other mental, spiritual or fantasy WORLDS of the MIND, but is facing REALITY ...
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